Discussion:
The difference between LNs and CTs
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JE Corbett
2023-12-16 13:10:02 UTC
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LNs talk about what happened on 11/22/63 and most believe it happened
just as the WC told us it did way back in September of 1964.

CTs spend most of their time telling us what didn't happen. They tell us not
to believe what the WC told us way back in September of 1964.

While the CTs have widely divergent theories about who was behind the
assassination, none of them will tell us how it happened nor present any
evidence supporting their beliefs. They spend at least 90% of their time
telling us why we should not trust the evidence presented to us by the WC.
The employ the tactic of addition by subtraction. If they can eliminate all
the evidence that Oswald was the assassin, that gives them the blank
canvass they need to fingerpaint their own picture of what happened back
on 11/22/63. It's a silly way to look at any case. They are looking through
the wrong end of the telescope.
robert johnson
2023-12-16 13:51:51 UTC
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MY MY
YOU ARE A SIMPLISTIC ASSHOLE
JE Corbett
2023-12-16 15:00:01 UTC
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Post by robert johnson
MY MY
YOU ARE A SIMPLISTIC ASSHOLE
That's funny coming from a guy who made a simplistic two line response without addressing any of the comments made.
Ben Holmes
2023-12-18 15:26:08 UTC
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On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 07:00:01 -0800 (PST), JE Corbett
Post by JE Corbett
That's funny coming from a guy who made a simplistic two line response without addressing any of the comments made.
Says the coward who refuses to address ANYTHING I point out.
Gil Jesus
2023-12-16 17:03:03 UTC
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While the CTs have widely divergent theories about who was behind the assassination, none of them will tell us how it happened nor present any evidence supporting their beliefs.
Why should anyone waste their time explaining what happened to people whose minds are already made up ?
Time and time again, attempts have been made to show you that this case was fraudulent. But all you do is make up excuses and argue against.
You won't accept anything other than the official version.
( In your minds ) You already have the truth, why would you want to hear an alternative scenario ?
Anytime someone posts a theory, you attack it and the poster, so no one wants to tell you shit.

Stop crying about Google not letting you flame people for free. Because in the final analysis, that's all you people are here for.
You don't post any evidence. You don't cite any sources. You refuse to answer questions.
But day after day, you come here and attack people. You call names like bratty little 10 year olds.
The best you can do is to copy-and-paste info you get online without giving the author any credit for their work.

I'm glad Google is shutting this down. When you leave the door open, whether it's free access to newsgroups or an open southern border, you invite the
most unscrupulous characters to contaminate the community. Like a fungus that won't go away, you assholes have taken the liberty to contaminate a
"conspiracy" newsgroup with your presence. Why ? You don't believe in conspiracies.

Because you're looking for trouble. You're the bullies of the internet and nobody likes a bully.

And even if you pay the $100-200/year it's going to cost you for a newsreader AND an NTTP server, there's no guarantee that your attacks will be seen by your intended target.
Unlike Google, many newsreaders now allow the "blocking" of certain posters. If they can't see your post, you can't piss them off. Then what's the point ?
Face it, you're defeated. You'll have to get your "entertainment" from another source.

Besides, you have YOUR truth, so have some class and walk off into the sunset like a man.
Instead of a sobbing little baby who can't quite reach his bottle.
Bud
2023-12-16 18:50:58 UTC
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Post by Gil Jesus
While the CTs have widely divergent theories about who was behind the assassination, none of them will tell us how it happened nor present any evidence supporting their beliefs.
Why should anyone waste their time explaining what happened to people whose minds are already made up ?
To show you have something to offer?
Post by Gil Jesus
Time and time again, attempts have been made to show you that this case was fraudulent.
So Corbett was correct, you have nothing to offer and can only bitch about the case that was made.
Post by Gil Jesus
But all you do is make up excuses and argue against.
You won't accept anything other than the official version.
You have nothing, that is the point.
Post by Gil Jesus
( In your minds ) You already have the truth, why would you want to hear an alternative scenario ?
To see if you have any reasonable or plausible to offer.
Post by Gil Jesus
Anytime someone posts a theory, you attack it and the poster, so no one wants to tell you shit.
Do you not realize how lame this is? You spend all your time attacking the official narrative, but cry that you don`t want to produce anything because it will be attacked.
Post by Gil Jesus
Stop crying about Google not letting you flame people for free. Because in the final analysis, that's all you people are here for.
Stop the pity party. Stop trying to play the victim card. You choose to put your stupidity on display in public.
Post by Gil Jesus
You don't post any evidence.
All online. You cant put it together into a cohesive package explaining this event, so what good does it do you?
Post by Gil Jesus
You don't cite any sources.
You are the source of your stupid ideas.
Post by Gil Jesus
You refuse to answer questions.
Why would we need to?
Post by Gil Jesus
But day after day, you come here and attack people. You call names like bratty little 10 year olds.
If you want to be treated like an adult conduct yourself like one. You and your buddy Ben are amazingly childish.
Post by Gil Jesus
The best you can do is to copy-and-paste info you get online without giving the author any credit for their work.
Is this the best you can do for a complaint?
Post by Gil Jesus
I'm glad Google is shutting this down. When you leave the door open, whether it's free access to newsgroups or an open southern border, you invite the
most unscrupulous characters to contaminate the community. Like a fungus that won't go away, you assholes have taken the liberty to contaminate a
"conspiracy" newsgroup with your presence. Why ? You don't believe in conspiracies.
You have nothing to offer, this post shows it.
Post by Gil Jesus
Because you're looking for trouble. You're the bullies of the internet and nobody likes a bully.
Boo-hoo, poor Gil is picked on.
Post by Gil Jesus
And even if you pay the $100-200/year it's going to cost you for a newsreader AND an NTTP server, there's no guarantee that your attacks will be seen by your intended target.
Unlike Google, many newsreaders now allow the "blocking" of certain posters. If they can't see your post, you can't piss them off.
You could have created a private forum where you and your fellow crackpots could jabber their crackpot shit among one another all along.
Post by Gil Jesus
Then what's the point ?
Yes, what is it? Are you going to bring Kennedy`s killers to justice, get Oswald off the hook? What is the point?
Post by Gil Jesus
Face it, you're defeated. You'll have to get your "entertainment" from another source.
It had about ran it`s course. There is nobody on your side to discuss ideas with.
Post by Gil Jesus
Besides, you have YOUR truth, so have some class and walk off into the sunset like a man.
You had every chance to make a case yourself like a man. Instead you bitch about the men who actually could and did. Those that can, do, those that can`t cry about those that can.
Post by Gil Jesus
Instead of a sobbing little baby who can't quite reach his bottle.
Ironic. Gil goes on a crying rant and projects his tears onto others.
Ben Holmes
2023-12-18 15:26:08 UTC
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On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 10:50:58 -0800 (PST), Bud <***@fast.net>
wrote:

So, according to Bugliosi, it was this "oval" shape that was
"virtually conclusive evidence" of an SBT?

Chickenshit is TERRIFIED of this simple honest question. He knows
that Bugliosi was a moron if he truly thought this... yet you can't
get Chickenshit to publicly acknowledge that Bugliosi said this.

It's a simple "Yes" or "No" question, and Chickenshit cannot cite
where he has EVER answered it. (Without immediately denying it.)

So it's going to keep getting asked until Chickenshit answers it.
JE Corbett
2023-12-16 20:03:46 UTC
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Post by Gil Jesus
While the CTs have widely divergent theories about who was behind the assassination, none of them will tell us how it happened nor present any evidence supporting their beliefs.
Why should anyone waste their time explaining what happened to people whose minds are already made up ?
To convince them why their minds shouldn't be made up. But since you can't do that, why should anyone change their minds?
Post by Gil Jesus
Time and time again, attempts have been made to show you that this case was fraudulent. But all you do is make up excuses and argue against.
The attempts have been feeble. You never present any evidence that anyone other than Oswald was involved. Instead you try to
tell us why we shouldn't believe evidence against Oswald. As I said in the OP, all you want to do is tell us what didn't happen.
You want to tell us Oswald didn't kill JFK when all the evidence says he did.
Post by Gil Jesus
You won't accept anything other than the official version.
That is the only one supported by real evidence.
Post by Gil Jesus
( In your minds ) You already have the truth,
Because we do.
Post by Gil Jesus
why would you want to hear an alternative scenario ?
Yes why would they when there is only one truth. It isn't a multiple choice exercise.
Post by Gil Jesus
Anytime someone posts a theory, you attack it and the poster, so no one wants to tell you shit.
What do you expect when your alternate theories not only have any supporting evidence, they run contrary to the existing
evidence.
Post by Gil Jesus
Stop crying about Google not letting you flame people for free. Because in the final analysis, that's all you people are here for.
Who's complaining. This is a silly hobby even for the LNs. Google is giving us a good reason to leave it.
Post by Gil Jesus
You don't post any evidence.
The WC did that back in 1964. They gave us an 888 page report summarizing what 26 volumes of exhibits and testimony
indicated. That is our case. We don't have to reinvent the wheel.
Post by Gil Jesus
You don't cite any sources.
You lie. Within the past few days I have cited DVP's webpage on the SBT extensively.
Post by Gil Jesus
You refuse to answer questions.
You mean we don't give answers that are acceptable to you. That was never the goal.
Post by Gil Jesus
But day after day, you come here and attack people. You call names like bratty little 10 year olds.
The best you can do is to copy-and-paste info you get online without giving the author any credit for their work.
So when I cited DVP's website for my arguments regarding the SBT, you don't think I was crediting DVP. Was I supposed to
send him a fruit basket too?
Post by Gil Jesus
I'm glad Google is shutting this down. When you leave the door open, whether it's free access to newsgroups or an open southern border, you invite the
most unscrupulous characters to contaminate the community. Like a fungus that won't go away, you assholes have taken the liberty to contaminate a
"conspiracy" newsgroup with your presence. Why ? You don't believe in conspiracies.
Since the conspiracy hobbyist weren't presenting any conspiracy theories, we have tried to fill the vacuum.
Post by Gil Jesus
Because you're looking for trouble. You're the bullies of the internet and nobody likes a bully.
We've asked you to give us an alternative to the WCR scenario and evidence to support it. What bastards we are.
Post by Gil Jesus
And even if you pay the $100-200/year it's going to cost you for a newsreader AND an NTTP server, there's no guarantee that your attacks will be seen by your intended target.
I have no intended targets. I know very few people are reading what any of us write. I do this for amusement only but it's not
a pasttime worth paying for.
Post by Gil Jesus
Unlike Google, many newsreaders now allow the "blocking" of certain posters. If they can't see your post, you can't piss them off. Then what's the point ?
Another reason not to pay anybody for a newsreader.
If you are going to pay for a newsreader, how are you going to know if anybody is reading your shit?
Post by Gil Jesus
Face it, you're defeated. You'll have to get your "entertainment" from another source.
Probably a a more productive use of my time. It couldn't be any less.
Post by Gil Jesus
Besides, you have YOUR truth, so have some class and walk off into the sunset like a man.
Instead of a sobbing little baby who can't quite reach his bottle.
If I'm sobbing, it's from laughing so hard at you assclowns.

Come February 15, instead of preaching to 12 people, you'll be preaching to 2. Have fun.
Ben Holmes
2023-12-18 15:26:08 UTC
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On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 12:03:46 -0800 (PST), JE Corbett
Post by JE Corbett
Post by Gil Jesus
While the CTs have widely divergent theories about who was behind the assassination, none of them will tell us how it happened nor present any evidence supporting their beliefs.
Why should anyone waste their time explaining what happened to people whose minds are already made up ?
To convince them why their minds shouldn't be made up. But since you can't do that, why should anyone change their minds?
To do that, you have to be able to cite evidence.

Deleted the rest of your whining...
Gil Jesus
2023-12-19 11:28:47 UTC
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Post by JE Corbett
To convince them why their minds shouldn't be made up. But since you can't do that, why should anyone change their minds?
Bullshit. Don't make it sound like you're open minded. You're not.
In fact, this very thread started by you is nothing more than another flame job directed at the WC critics.
That's all you people are doing now that you see the end of free posting in sight.
Every one of your posts is an attack on either me, Ben or the critical community in general.
Instead of going out of here in class, you people are going out proving to the world what pieces of shit you really are.
Post by JE Corbett
Come February 15, instead of preaching to 12 people, you'll be preaching to 2.
One difference is that after February 15th, you will no longer be able to post your silly comments and insults.
But you WILL be able to read posts made through other servers until February 22nd. Then no more Google usenet.
Google will no longer provide support for either posting or reading.

It'll be fun posting between February 15th and the 22nd, knowing that you're reading our posts and not able to respond.
It'll be fun knowing how much it's killing you to lose that "priviledge".
But don't worry, if you DO change your mind and decide to "pay to play", we'll just killfilter you, rendering your insults worthless.
Face it, the Golden Era for trolls is over.

Do you really think that Google is the only newsreader out there ?
Do you really think that Google is the only source of readers ?
ROFLMAO.

Another difference is that Ben and I will continue to post evidence critical to the Warren Commission's findings which will be seen by a potential world wide audience.
Anyone in the world who has a newsreader ( free or pay ) and is subscribed to this newsgroup will see our posts.
But they won't see yours.
Post by JE Corbett
Have fun.
We intend to.
Gil Jesus
2023-12-19 12:21:30 UTC
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Post by JE Corbett
To convince them why their minds shouldn't be made up. But since you can't do that, why should anyone change their minds?
Bullshit. Don't make it sound like you're open minded. You're not.
In fact, this very thread started by you is nothing more than another flame job directed at the WC critics.
That's all you people are doing now that you see the end of free posting in sight.
Every one of your posts is an attack on either me, Ben or the critical community in general.
Instead of going out of here in class, you people are going out proving to the world what pieces of shit you really are.
Post by JE Corbett
Come February 15, instead of preaching to 12 people, you'll be preaching to 2.
One difference is that after February 15th, you will no longer be able to post your silly comments and insults.
But you WILL be able to read posts made through other servers until February 22nd. Then no more Google usenet.
Google will no longer provide support for either new posting or reading posts after February 22nd.

It'll be fun posting between February 15th and the 22nd, knowing that you're reading our posts and not able to respond.
It'll be fun knowing how much it's killing you to lose that "priviledge".
But don't worry, if you DO change your mind and decide to "pay to play", we'll just killfilter you, rendering your insults worthless.
Face it, the Golden Era for trolls is over.

Do you really think that Google is the only newsreader out there ?
Do you really think that Google is the only source of readers ?
ROFLMAO.

Another difference is that Ben and I will continue to post evidence critical to the Warren Commission's findings which will be seen by a potential world wide audience.
Anyone in the world who has a newsreader ( free or pay ) and is subscribed to this newsgroup will see our posts.
But they won't see yours.
Post by JE Corbett
Have fun.
We intend to.
JE Corbett
2023-12-19 13:42:54 UTC
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Post by Gil Jesus
Post by JE Corbett
To convince them why their minds shouldn't be made up. But since you can't do that, why should anyone change their minds?
Bullshit. Don't make it sound like you're open minded. You're not.
In fact, this very thread started by you is nothing more than another flame job directed at the WC critics.
That's all you people are doing now that you see the end of free posting in sight.
Every one of your posts is an attack on either me, Ben or the critical community in general.
Instead of going out of here in class, you people are going out proving to the world what pieces of shit you really are.
Post by JE Corbett
Come February 15, instead of preaching to 12 people, you'll be preaching to 2.
One difference is that after February 15th, you will no longer be able to post your silly comments and insults.
But you WILL be able to read posts made through other servers until February 22nd. Then no more Google usenet.
Google will no longer provide support for either new posting or reading posts after February 22nd.
It'll be fun posting between February 15th and the 22nd, knowing that you're reading our posts and not able to respond.
It'll be fun knowing how much it's killing you to lose that "priviledge".
But don't worry, if you DO change your mind and decide to "pay to play", we'll just killfilter you, rendering your insults worthless.
Face it, the Golden Era for trolls is over.
Do you really think that Google is the only newsreader out there ?
Do you really think that Google is the only source of readers ?
ROFLMAO.
Another difference is that Ben and I will continue to post evidence critical to the Warren Commission's findings which will be seen by a potential world wide audience.
Anyone in the world who has a newsreader ( free or pay ) and is subscribed to this newsgroup will see our posts.
But they won't see yours.
Post by JE Corbett
Have fun.
We intend to.
Google is going haywire right now so I am bottom posting.

I am not open minded about the possibility of Oswald's innocence. The time for that expired a long time ago. I would be open minded about a conspiracy
if I was ever presented any credible evidence of one. That has never happened. If you think I give a shit that Google is shutting down access to this clown
show you're even dumber than I ever gave you credit for. I've used Google because it's free which is what this silly hobby is worth. What kind of an
idiot would pay to read your nonsense? When the LNs leave this forum, you will be reduced to posting your drivel to an audience of 2 or 3 fellow snipe
hunters. You will become even more inconsequential than you already are. Face it, Giltardo. You are accomplishing nothing. Most of the civilized world
knows Oswald was JFK's assassin and the more intelligent folks believe he acted alone. You aren't going to change either of those facts. You'll go on
posing your inane loaded to questions to nobody and will continue to accomplish absolutely nothing in the process. You'll continue to act under the
delusion that you actually matter. You don't. You never have. You never will. You'll go to your grave and the rest of the world won't even know or care
about your silly snipe hunt you have wasted decades of your life on. Rossley's website survived him just as yours will as long as the bills are paid.
It won't matter because practically no one will visit it. Same for you YouTube videos. The WCR will still be the definitive explanation of the assassination
of JFK and there's nothing you can do about it.
Ben Holmes
2023-12-19 15:30:19 UTC
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On Tue, 19 Dec 2023 05:42:54 -0800 (PST), JE Corbett
Post by JE Corbett
Post by Gil Jesus
Post by JE Corbett
To convince them why their minds shouldn't be made up. But since you can't do that, why should anyone change their minds?
Bullshit. Don't make it sound like you're open minded. You're not.
In fact, this very thread started by you is nothing more than another flame job directed at the WC critics.
That's all you people are doing now that you see the end of free posting in sight.
Every one of your posts is an attack on either me, Ben or the critical community in general.
Instead of going out of here in class, you people are going out proving to the world what pieces of shit you really are.
Post by JE Corbett
Come February 15, instead of preaching to 12 people, you'll be preaching to 2.
One difference is that after February 15th, you will no longer be able to post your silly comments and insults.
But you WILL be able to read posts made through other servers until February 22nd. Then no more Google usenet.
Google will no longer provide support for either new posting or reading posts after February 22nd.
It'll be fun posting between February 15th and the 22nd, knowing that you're reading our posts and not able to respond.
It'll be fun knowing how much it's killing you to lose that "priviledge".
But don't worry, if you DO change your mind and decide to "pay to play", we'll just killfilter you, rendering your insults worthless.
Face it, the Golden Era for trolls is over.
Do you really think that Google is the only newsreader out there ?
Do you really think that Google is the only source of readers ?
ROFLMAO.
Another difference is that Ben and I will continue to post evidence critical to the Warren Commission's findings which will be seen by a potential world wide audience.
Anyone in the world who has a newsreader ( free or pay ) and is subscribed to this newsgroup will see our posts.
But they won't see yours.
Post by JE Corbett
Have fun.
We intend to.
Google is going haywire right now so I am bottom posting.
I am not open minded about the possibility of Oswald's innocence.
The time for that expired a long time ago. I would be open minded
about a conspiracy if I was ever presented any credible evidence of one.
Credible evidence is posted all the time. Some of which was known on
11/22/63... such as the entry wound in JFK's throat, and the dozens of
witnesses to shots coming from the GK.

You simply deny that it's credible - but most of America disagrees
with you.


I was forced to delete the rest of your rant, since it was nothing but
logical fallacies.
Bud
2023-12-19 20:33:37 UTC
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Post by Ben Holmes
On Tue, 19 Dec 2023 05:42:54 -0800 (PST), JE Corbett
Post by JE Corbett
Post by Gil Jesus
Post by JE Corbett
To convince them why their minds shouldn't be made up. But since you can't do that, why should anyone change their minds?
Bullshit. Don't make it sound like you're open minded. You're not.
In fact, this very thread started by you is nothing more than another flame job directed at the WC critics.
That's all you people are doing now that you see the end of free posting in sight.
Every one of your posts is an attack on either me, Ben or the critical community in general.
Instead of going out of here in class, you people are going out proving to the world what pieces of shit you really are.
Post by JE Corbett
Come February 15, instead of preaching to 12 people, you'll be preaching to 2.
One difference is that after February 15th, you will no longer be able to post your silly comments and insults.
But you WILL be able to read posts made through other servers until February 22nd. Then no more Google usenet.
Google will no longer provide support for either new posting or reading posts after February 22nd.
It'll be fun posting between February 15th and the 22nd, knowing that you're reading our posts and not able to respond.
It'll be fun knowing how much it's killing you to lose that "priviledge".
But don't worry, if you DO change your mind and decide to "pay to play", we'll just killfilter you, rendering your insults worthless.
Face it, the Golden Era for trolls is over.
Do you really think that Google is the only newsreader out there ?
Do you really think that Google is the only source of readers ?
ROFLMAO.
Another difference is that Ben and I will continue to post evidence critical to the Warren Commission's findings which will be seen by a potential world wide audience.
Anyone in the world who has a newsreader ( free or pay ) and is subscribed to this newsgroup will see our posts.
But they won't see yours.
Post by JE Corbett
Have fun.
We intend to.
Google is going haywire right now so I am bottom posting.
I am not open minded about the possibility of Oswald's innocence.
The time for that expired a long time ago. I would be open minded
about a conspiracy if I was ever presented any credible evidence of one.
Credible evidence is posted all the time. Some of which was known on
11/22/63... such as the entry wound in JFK's throat,
You refuse to show it was a entry.
Post by Ben Holmes
and the dozens of
witnesses to shots coming from the GK.
Some witnesses indicated echoes.
Post by Ben Holmes
You simply deny that it's credible - but most of America disagrees
with you.
Does most of America feel the z-film was altered, stupid? They disagree with you.
Post by Ben Holmes
I was forced to delete the rest of your rant, since it was nothing but
logical fallacies.
Ben Holmes
2023-12-20 15:28:06 UTC
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On Tue, 19 Dec 2023 12:33:37 -0800 (PST), Bud <***@fast.net>
wrote:

So, according to Bugliosi, it was this "oval" shape that was
"virtually conclusive evidence" of an SBT?

Chickenshit is TERRIFIED of this simple honest question. He knows
that Bugliosi was a moron if he truly thought this... yet you can't
get Chickenshit to publicly acknowledge that Bugliosi said this.

It's a simple "Yes" or "No" question, and Chickenshit cannot cite
where he has EVER answered it. (Without immediately denying it.)

So it's going to keep getting asked until Chickenshit answers it.
Ben Holmes
2023-12-18 15:26:08 UTC
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On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 05:10:02 -0800 (PST), JE Corbett
Post by JE Corbett
LNs talk about what happened on 11/22/63 and most believe it happened
just as the WC told us it did way back in September of 1964.
That's simply a lie. You aren't ignorant of the polling which shows
that most of America disagrees with the WCR - but for some strange
reason you don't mind telling whoppers that can easily be refuted.
Post by JE Corbett
CTs spend most of their time telling us what didn't happen. They tell us not
to believe what the WC told us way back in September of 1964.
When you're forced to lie, all you've proven is that you're a liar.
Post by JE Corbett
While the CTs have widely divergent theories about who was behind the
assassination, none of them will tell us how it happened nor present any
evidence supporting their beliefs.
There you go again.
Post by JE Corbett
They spend at least 90% of their time
telling us why we should not trust the evidence presented to us by the WC.
We rightfully don't trust proven liars.
Post by JE Corbett
The employ the tactic of addition by subtraction. If they can eliminate all
the evidence that Oswald was the assassin, that gives them the blank
canvass they need to fingerpaint their own picture of what happened back
on 11/22/63. It's a silly way to look at any case. They are looking through
the wrong end of the telescope.
A meaningless whine.

An entire post of lies and logical fallacies... is anyone surprised?
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