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Hey, Willis! Does Allan Sweatt In Trask's Book Identify Jim Braden...
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NoTrueFlags Here
2023-12-13 08:27:30 UTC
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in a photo on page 545? Not that I trust Allen Sweatt, really, but it would be something.
Donald Willis
2023-12-13 17:17:46 UTC
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in a photo on page 545? Not that I trust Allen Sweatt, really, but it would be something.
Doubt if the guy could be ID'd except by the hat, & hats are--like 5th-floor shells--easily transferable. And I don't know if Sweatt is even still alive to ID anyone. I trust Sweatt implicitly--he is the only outside deppity to go on record as having Mooney shouting from the 5th floor. How in hell can you not trust him? (except for unintentional errors, such as saying Mooney was at the NE window, just as Lt. Day booboo-ed once, too. Not that I think Day is always trustworthy.)

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NoTrueFlags Here
2023-12-13 19:02:10 UTC
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in a photo on page 545? Not that I trust Allen Sweatt, really, but it would be something.
Doubt if the guy could be ID'd except by the hat, & hats are--like 5th-floor shells--easily transferable. And I don't know if Sweatt is even still alive to ID anyone. I trust Sweatt implicitly--he is the only outside deppity to go on record as having Mooney shouting from the 5th floor. How in hell can you not trust him? (except for unintentional errors, such as saying Mooney was at the NE window, just as Lt. Day booboo-ed once, too. Not that I think Day is always trustworthy.)
dcw
Is that a yes or no? You do have the book handy, right? Or is it in Hank's basement?
NoTrueFlags Here
2023-12-13 19:12:04 UTC
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in a photo on page 545? Not that I trust Allen Sweatt, really, but it would be something.
Doubt if the guy could be ID'd except by the hat, & hats are--like 5th-floor shells--easily transferable. And I don't know if Sweatt is even still alive to ID anyone. I trust Sweatt implicitly--he is the only outside deppity to go on record as having Mooney shouting from the 5th floor. How in hell can you not trust him? (except for unintentional errors, such as saying Mooney was at the NE window, just as Lt. Day booboo-ed once, too. Not that I think Day is always trustworthy.)
dcw
Allen Sweatt lied to protect Harry Weatherford's story of entering the TSBD. I'm sure he lied whenever it was needed.
Donald Willis
2023-12-13 19:20:28 UTC
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in a photo on page 545? Not that I trust Allen Sweatt, really, but it would be something.
Doubt if the guy could be ID'd except by the hat, & hats are--like 5th-floor shells--easily transferable. And I don't know if Sweatt is even still alive to ID anyone. I trust Sweatt implicitly--he is the only outside deppity to go on record as having Mooney shouting from the 5th floor. How in hell can you not trust him? (except for unintentional errors, such as saying Mooney was at the NE window, just as Lt. Day booboo-ed once, too. Not that I think Day is always trustworthy.)
dcw
Allen Sweatt lied to protect Harry Weatherford's story of entering the TSBD. I'm sure he lied whenever it was needed.
It certainly wasn't needed for him to maintain that he spotted Mooney on the 5th floor. That's a real monkey wrench, or Mooney wrench, in the rush to the 6th floor...

dcw
NoTrueFlags Here
2023-12-13 19:22:20 UTC
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in a photo on page 545? Not that I trust Allen Sweatt, really, but it would be something.
Doubt if the guy could be ID'd except by the hat, & hats are--like 5th-floor shells--easily transferable. And I don't know if Sweatt is even still alive to ID anyone. I trust Sweatt implicitly--he is the only outside deppity to go on record as having Mooney shouting from the 5th floor. How in hell can you not trust him? (except for unintentional errors, such as saying Mooney was at the NE window, just as Lt. Day booboo-ed once, too. Not that I think Day is always trustworthy.)
dcw
Allen Sweatt lied to protect Harry Weatherford's story of entering the TSBD. I'm sure he lied whenever it was needed.
It certainly wasn't needed for him to maintain that he spotted Mooney on the 5th floor. That's a real monkey wrench, or Mooney wrench, in the rush to the 6th floor...
dcw
So is Sweatt quoted in Trask as identifying Braden?
NoTrueFlags Here
2023-12-14 06:38:54 UTC
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in a photo on page 545? Not that I trust Allen Sweatt, really, but it would be something.
Doubt if the guy could be ID'd except by the hat, & hats are--like 5th-floor shells--easily transferable. And I don't know if Sweatt is even still alive to ID anyone. I trust Sweatt implicitly--he is the only outside deppity to go on record as having Mooney shouting from the 5th floor. How in hell can you not trust him? (except for unintentional errors, such as saying Mooney was at the NE window, just as Lt. Day booboo-ed once, too. Not that I think Day is always trustworthy.)
dcw
Allen Sweatt lied to protect Harry Weatherford's story of entering the TSBD. I'm sure he lied whenever it was needed.
It certainly wasn't needed for him to maintain that he spotted Mooney on the 5th floor. That's a real monkey wrench, or Mooney wrench, in the rush to the 6th floor...
dcw
So is Sweatt quoted in Trask as identifying Braden?
All right. Never mind. I'll have to buy the stupid fucking book myself. Oh, the ignominy!
Donald Willis
2023-12-14 17:24:28 UTC
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in a photo on page 545? Not that I trust Allen Sweatt, really, but it would be something.
Doubt if the guy could be ID'd except by the hat, & hats are--like 5th-floor shells--easily transferable. And I don't know if Sweatt is even still alive to ID anyone. I trust Sweatt implicitly--he is the only outside deppity to go on record as having Mooney shouting from the 5th floor. How in hell can you not trust him? (except for unintentional errors, such as saying Mooney was at the NE window, just as Lt. Day booboo-ed once, too. Not that I think Day is always trustworthy.)
dcw
Allen Sweatt lied to protect Harry Weatherford's story of entering the TSBD. I'm sure he lied whenever it was needed.
It certainly wasn't needed for him to maintain that he spotted Mooney on the 5th floor. That's a real monkey wrench, or Mooney wrench, in the rush to the 6th floor...
dcw
So is Sweatt quoted in Trask as identifying Braden?
All right. Never mind. I'll have to buy the stupid fucking book myself. Oh, the ignominy!
Hold on! Don't splurge on Trask. (Although his book contains goodies like Moorman 3, which shows the extreme west-end window on the 5th floor (facing Elm) already open several minutes before Jarman was supposed to have opened it!) But to business: page 545: "Also within the same (Allen) photo, but on the L side further back from Brehm & Tague, is a man in a light-colored trench coat wearing a hat with a distinctive band. This man's picture was later ID'd by Sweatt & another deputy who had assisted in processing witnesses that day, as being Jim Braden."

dcw
NoTrueFlags Here
2023-12-14 18:14:44 UTC
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in a photo on page 545? Not that I trust Allen Sweatt, really, but it would be something.
Doubt if the guy could be ID'd except by the hat, & hats are--like 5th-floor shells--easily transferable. And I don't know if Sweatt is even still alive to ID anyone. I trust Sweatt implicitly--he is the only outside deppity to go on record as having Mooney shouting from the 5th floor. How in hell can you not trust him? (except for unintentional errors, such as saying Mooney was at the NE window, just as Lt. Day booboo-ed once, too. Not that I think Day is always trustworthy.)
dcw
Allen Sweatt lied to protect Harry Weatherford's story of entering the TSBD. I'm sure he lied whenever it was needed.
It certainly wasn't needed for him to maintain that he spotted Mooney on the 5th floor. That's a real monkey wrench, or Mooney wrench, in the rush to the 6th floor...
dcw
So is Sweatt quoted in Trask as identifying Braden?
All right. Never mind. I'll have to buy the stupid fucking book myself. Oh, the ignominy!
Hold on! Don't splurge on Trask. (Although his book contains goodies like Moorman 3, which shows the extreme west-end window on the 5th floor (facing Elm) already open several minutes before Jarman was supposed to have opened it!) But to business: page 545: "Also within the same (Allen) photo, but on the L side further back from Brehm & Tague, is a man in a light-colored trench coat wearing a hat with a distinctive band. This man's picture was later ID'd by Sweatt & another deputy who had assisted in processing witnesses that day, as being Jim Braden."
dcw
Shit! I already bought it. That's about a week's worth of protein down the drain. I won't ask any more about it. I'll wait until my 5 cans of salmon arrive.
Donald Willis
2023-12-14 19:04:55 UTC
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in a photo on page 545? Not that I trust Allen Sweatt, really, but it would be something.
Doubt if the guy could be ID'd except by the hat, & hats are--like 5th-floor shells--easily transferable. And I don't know if Sweatt is even still alive to ID anyone. I trust Sweatt implicitly--he is the only outside deppity to go on record as having Mooney shouting from the 5th floor. How in hell can you not trust him? (except for unintentional errors, such as saying Mooney was at the NE window, just as Lt. Day booboo-ed once, too. Not that I think Day is always trustworthy.)
dcw
Allen Sweatt lied to protect Harry Weatherford's story of entering the TSBD. I'm sure he lied whenever it was needed.
It certainly wasn't needed for him to maintain that he spotted Mooney on the 5th floor. That's a real monkey wrench, or Mooney wrench, in the rush to the 6th floor...
dcw
So is Sweatt quoted in Trask as identifying Braden?
All right. Never mind. I'll have to buy the stupid fucking book myself. Oh, the ignominy!
Hold on! Don't splurge on Trask. (Although his book contains goodies like Moorman 3, which shows the extreme west-end window on the 5th floor (facing Elm) already open several minutes before Jarman was supposed to have opened it!) But to business: page 545: "Also within the same (Allen) photo, but on the L side further back from Brehm & Tague, is a man in a light-colored trench coat wearing a hat with a distinctive band. This man's picture was later ID'd by Sweatt & another deputy who had assisted in processing witnesses that day, as being Jim Braden."
dcw
Shit! I already bought it. That's about a week's worth of protein down the drain. I won't ask any more about it. I'll wait until my 5 cans of salmon arrive.
Oh, well. It's got some good info and good photos, even if he does lead you (read: me) astray, at times. Sorry I took so long... So you can finally see the Dillard (read: Powell) photo version I was talking about (in comparing it to the WR version), though you've guided me out of that apparent false lead anyway...
NoTrueFlags Here
2023-12-15 05:12:28 UTC
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in a photo on page 545? Not that I trust Allen Sweatt, really, but it would be something.
Doubt if the guy could be ID'd except by the hat, & hats are--like 5th-floor shells--easily transferable. And I don't know if Sweatt is even still alive to ID anyone. I trust Sweatt implicitly--he is the only outside deppity to go on record as having Mooney shouting from the 5th floor. How in hell can you not trust him? (except for unintentional errors, such as saying Mooney was at the NE window, just as Lt. Day booboo-ed once, too. Not that I think Day is always trustworthy.)
dcw
Allen Sweatt lied to protect Harry Weatherford's story of entering the TSBD. I'm sure he lied whenever it was needed.
It certainly wasn't needed for him to maintain that he spotted Mooney on the 5th floor. That's a real monkey wrench, or Mooney wrench, in the rush to the 6th floor...
dcw
So is Sweatt quoted in Trask as identifying Braden?
All right. Never mind. I'll have to buy the stupid fucking book myself. Oh, the ignominy!
Hold on! Don't splurge on Trask. (Although his book contains goodies like Moorman 3, which shows the extreme west-end window on the 5th floor (facing Elm) already open several minutes before Jarman was supposed to have opened it!) But to business: page 545: "Also within the same (Allen) photo, but on the L side further back from Brehm & Tague, is a man in a light-colored trench coat wearing a hat with a distinctive band. This man's picture was later ID'd by Sweatt & another deputy who had assisted in processing witnesses that day, as being Jim Braden."
dcw
Shit! I already bought it. That's about a week's worth of protein down the drain. I won't ask any more about it. I'll wait until my 5 cans of salmon arrive.
Oh, well. It's got some good info and good photos, even if he does lead you (read: me) astray, at times. Sorry I took so long... So you can finally see the Dillard (read: Powell) photo version I was talking about (in comparing it to the WR version), though you've guided me out of that apparent false lead anyway...
It's a picture book, right? I like picture books. And although it's mostly cellulose, there's probably a little protein in the binding glue.
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