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Bud's LHO Waterloo... enjoy (6 parts)
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David
2023-12-05 01:53:53 UTC
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Wednesday, 20 September 2023 15:09
Part 1 of 6: No Motive, plus the Silenced Witnesses
Written by Johnny Cairns



https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/part-1-of-6-no-motive-plus-the-silenced-witnesses
JE Corbett
2023-12-05 05:12:33 UTC
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Post by David
Wednesday, 20 September 2023 15:09
Part 1 of 6: No Motive, plus the Silenced Witnesses
Written by Johnny Cairns
https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/part-1-of-6-no-motive-plus-the-silenced-witnesses
This assclown is regurgitating lots of the long ago debunked arguments against Oswald's guilt. Let's examine them one
by one.

1. Oswald's motive.
It is completely unnecessary to prove what Oswald's motive was. That's something only Oswald knew and he never told us
what it was. He had a motive. We will never know what it was, although it is fun to guess. The evidence proves Oswald was
the assassin. No need to prove why.

2. Houston vs. Elm
I've never understood why anyone would second guess Oswald's successful choice. Usually the Monday morning quarterbacks
second guess the losing coach, not the winning one. That said, choosing to fire the shots on Houston present a different
set of problems. For starters, if you look at the picture of the crosshairs trained on the guy in the back seat, that would have
been Connally's seat. JFK was behind Connally, so there would not have been a clear shot. If he took the shot while the limo
was approaching the TSBD, he would have been facing the entire Secret Service protection detail. There was a much better
chance of him being seen and subject to return fire. They might have also spotted him before he got off the first shot and
moved to get JFK out of harm's way. By waiting until both limos had passed the sniper's nest, he could bushwack JFK with
little chance of return fire. The tree only blocked the view from the sniper's nest for a few seconds. Oswald probably got
his first shot off before the limo went under the tree and after it passed the tree, there were no obstructions at all. The
silliest part of this argument is that whoever the shooter was, he would have faced the same choice between Houston or
Elm and that shooter chose Elm. There is ample evidence that shooter was Oswald.

3. Four is the magic number
He asks why Oswald would try the assassination with only four bullets. I wonder if he ever stopped to consider that was all
that Oswald had left. No Carcano ammo was found at his rooming house or the Paine residence. Does this idiot think it would
have made more sense had somebody else attempt the assassination with just four bullets.

4. The Carcano's assembly tool.
This is a red herring. We don't know what Oswald used to assemble the rifle nor do we need to know. We know that he did
assemble the rifle in the TSBD. How do we know that? The rifle had to be disassembled to fit in the bag and the print found
on the barrel could only have been placed there with the rifle disassembled. Let's give Oswald some credit. He knew he was
going to have to reassemble the rifle. He would have either known where he could get a screwdriver at the TSBD or he would
have brought something along with him. Maybe it was a dime. Who knows? Who cares? If somebody else shot JFK with the
rifle, do we know what tool that person used?

5. How did Oswald wipe down the Carcano?
The question assumes Oswald did wipe down the Carcano. There is no evidence that he did. There wasn't much reason for
him to do so. He knew he was going to leave his rifle at the TSBD and he had to know it would be found. Unless he was
really dumb, he would have known it would be traced to him. Why bother wiping the prints off of it?

6. Lee Oswald, assassin of fall guy
This guy asks if Oswald was capable of devising and executing the assassination. What was difficult about it. He needed to
smuggle his rifle into work, find a spot he would have to himself when the motorcade drove by, the stick the rifle out the
window and shoot a guy a short distance away. What about any of that would be beyond Oswald's capability. I realize
Oswald was a failure at most things he attempted in his lifetime but if finally succeeded at something, and the CTs want
to deny him the credit.

He goes on to try to make the argument that Oswald didn't have a violent nature. Right. That's why he murdered Tippit 45
minutes after murdering JFK. The he pulled his gun on the cops who tried to arrest him. What a sweetheart of a guy.
Ben Holmes
2023-12-05 16:15:43 UTC
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On Mon, 4 Dec 2023 21:12:33 -0800 (PST), JE Corbett
Post by JE Corbett
Post by David
Wednesday, 20 September 2023 15:09
Part 1 of 6: No Motive, plus the Silenced Witnesses
Written by Johnny Cairns
https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/part-1-of-6-no-motive-plus-the-silenced-witnesses
This assclown is regurgitating lots of the long ago debunked arguments against Oswald's guilt. Let's examine them one
by one.
When you start with ad hominem we know it won't go well for you -
Huckster Sienzant.
Post by JE Corbett
1. Oswald's motive.
It is completely unnecessary to prove what Oswald's motive was. That's something only Oswald knew and he never told us
what it was. He had a motive. We will never know what it was, although it is fun to guess. The evidence proves Oswald was
the assassin. No need to prove why.
You're assuming what you need to prove.
Post by JE Corbett
2. Houston vs. Elm
I've never understood why anyone would second guess Oswald's successful choice. Usually the Monday morning quarterbacks
second guess the losing coach, not the winning one. That said, choosing to fire the shots on Houston present a different
set of problems. For starters, if you look at the picture of the crosshairs trained on the guy in the back seat, that would have
been Connally's seat.
Nope. You're lying again.
Post by JE Corbett
JFK was behind Connally, so there would not have been a clear shot.
Are you really stupid enough to think that?

Chuckles is going to ask you what did your experiments show.

Are you going to answer?
Post by JE Corbett
If he took the shot while the limo
was approaching the TSBD, he would have been facing the entire Secret Service protection detail. There was a much better
chance of him being seen and subject to return fire. They might have also spotted him before he got off the first shot and
moved to get JFK out of harm's way. By waiting until both limos had passed the sniper's nest, he could bushwack JFK with
little chance of return fire. The tree only blocked the view from the sniper's nest for a few seconds. Oswald probably got
his first shot off before the limo went under the tree and after it passed the tree, there were no obstructions at all. The
silliest part of this argument is that whoever the shooter was, he would have faced the same choice between Houston or
Elm and that shooter chose Elm. There is ample evidence that shooter was Oswald.
Your entire argument here is sheer speculation.
Post by JE Corbett
3. Four is the magic number
He asks why Oswald would try the assassination with only four bullets. I wonder if he ever stopped to consider that was all
that Oswald had left.
You'll not cite for that lie... you can't.
Post by JE Corbett
No Carcano ammo was found at his rooming house or the Paine residence.
Nor was any Carcano ammo found at the following residences:

Ike Altgens
Gordon Arnold
Hugh Aynesworth
Lee Bowers
Charles Brehm
Howard Brennan
Earle Cabell
John Connally
Nellie Connally
Mal Couch
Jesse Curry
Clint Grant
William Greer
Jerry Haynes
Clint Hill
Jean Hill
Robert H. Jackson
Lem Johns
Roy Kellerman
Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis
Robert MacNeil
Mary Moorman
Marie Muchmore
Orville Nix
Kenneth O'Donnell
David Powers
Marilyn Sitzman
James Tague
Jack Valenti
Linda Willis
Phillip Willis
Rosemary Willis
Wes Wise
Ralph Yarborough
Rufus Youngblood
Abraham Zapruder

While not a complete list of residence where ammo was not found, I'm
sure everyone is laughing at Corbutt by now...
Post by JE Corbett
Does this idiot think it would
have made more sense had somebody else attempt the assassination with just four bullets.
The idiot is clearly you.
Post by JE Corbett
4. The Carcano's assembly tool.
This is a red herring. We don't know what Oswald used to assemble the rifle nor do we need to know. We know that he did
assemble the rifle in the TSBD.
Nope. This is simply speculation. You CANNOT (and will not) cite any
evidence that supports this claim of yours.
Post by JE Corbett
How do we know that? The rifle had to be disassembled to fit in the bag
Again, sheer speculation. There's no evidence WHATSOEVER that the
rifle was ever in that bag.
Post by JE Corbett
and the print found
on the barrel could only have been placed there with the rifle disassembled.
You mean the print that wasn't there when the FBI examined the rifle?
Post by JE Corbett
Let's give Oswald some credit. He knew he was
going to have to reassemble the rifle. He would have either known where he could get a screwdriver at the TSBD or he would
have brought something along with him. Maybe it was a dime. Who knows? Who cares? If somebody else shot JFK with the
rifle, do we know what tool that person used?
The fact that you aren't aware of the difficulties of using a "dime"
show that you're not really interested in the truth.

Why haven't *YOU* conducted this experiment? Chuckles will be sooooo
disappointed in you.
Post by JE Corbett
5. How did Oswald wipe down the Carcano?
The question assumes Oswald did wipe down the Carcano. There is no evidence that he did. There wasn't much reason for
him to do so. He knew he was going to leave his rifle at the TSBD and he had to know it would be found. Unless he was
really dumb, he would have known it would be traced to him. Why bother wiping the prints off of it?
Nothing but unsupported speculation.
Post by JE Corbett
6. Lee Oswald, assassin of fall guy
This guy asks if Oswald was capable of devising and executing the assassination. What was difficult about it. He needed to
smuggle his rifle into work, find a spot he would have to himself when the motorcade drove by, the stick the rifle out the
window and shoot a guy a short distance away. What about any of that would be beyond Oswald's capability. I realize
Oswald was a failure at most things he attempted in his lifetime but if finally succeeded at something, and the CTs want
to deny him the credit.
Nothing but unsupported speculation...
Post by JE Corbett
He goes on to try to make the argument that Oswald didn't have a violent nature. Right. That's why he murdered Tippit 45
minutes after murdering JFK. The he pulled his gun on the cops who tried to arrest him. What a sweetheart of a guy.
Can you name this logical fallacy?

Congratulations on doing only 6 out of the 10 on that page... 60% is
far better than most believers could handle, even though you failed on
all 6.

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