Sam McClung
2009-09-26 05:35:37 UTC
roger craig tells of the 7.65 mauser found before 1:06 p.m. and lt. day
ejecting a live round from it
seymour weitzman tells of the carcano being found at 1:22 p.m. and captain
fritz ejecting a live round from it
viz:
from "When They Kill A President" by Roger Craig
<begin roger craig quote>
We were told by Dallas Police to look for a rifle--something I had already
concluded might be there since the cartridges found were, apparently, from a
rifle. I was nearing the northwest corner of the sixth floor when Deputy
Eugene Boone called out, "here it is." I was about eight feet from Boone,
who was standing next to a stack of cardboard boxes. The boxes were stacked
so that there was no opening between them except at the top. Looking over
the top and down the opening I saw a rifle with a telescopic sight laying on
the floor with the bolt facing upward. At this time Boone and I were joined
by Lt. Day of the Dallas Police Department and Dallas Homicide Captain, Will
Fritz. The rifle was retrieved by Lt. Day, who activated the bolt, ejecting
one live round of ammunition which fell to the floor.
Lt. Day inspected the rifle briefly, then handed it to Capt. Fritz who had a
puzzled look on his face. Seymour Weitzman, a deputy constable, was standing
beside me at the time. Weitzman was an expert on weapons. He had been in the
sporting goods business for many years and was familiar with all domestic
and foreign weapons. Capt. Fritz asked if anyone knew what kind of rifle it
was. Weitzman asked to see it. After a *close* examination (much longer than
Fritz or Day's examination) Weitzman declared that it was a 7.65 German
Mauser. Fritz agreed with him. Apparently, someone at the Dallas Police
Department also loses things but, at least, they are more conscientious.
They did replace it--even if the replacement was made in a different
country. (See Warren Report for Italian Mannlicher-Carcano 6.5 Caliber).
At that exact moment an unknown Dallas police officer came
running up the stairs and advised Capt. Fritz that a Dallas policeman had
been shot in the Oak Cliff area. I instinctively looked at my watch. The
time was 1:06 p.m. A token force of
uniformed officers was left to keep the sixth floor secure and Fritz, Day,
Boone, Mooney, Weitzman and I left the building.
<end roger craig quote>
from the unsigned testimony of weitzman, produced by the warren commission:
Mr. BALL. In the statement that you made to the Dallas Police Department
that afternoon, you referred to the rifle as a 7.65 Mauser boltt action?
...
Mr. BALL. You also said at the time the rifle was found at 1:22 p.m., is
that correct?
Mr. WEITZMAN. I believe that is correct I Wouldn't commit myself there
because I am not sure; I'm not positive that was it.
Mr. BALL. In this statement, it says Captain Fritz took charge of the rifle
and ejected one live round from the chamber.
Mr. WEITZMAN. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. He did eject one live round?
Mr. WEITZMAN. Yes, sir; he did eject one live round, one live round, yes
sir...
...
Mr. BALL. And it was equipped with a scope?
Mr. WEITZMAN. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Was it of Japanese manufacture?
Mr. WEITZMAN. I believe it was a 2.5 Weaver at the time I looked at it. I
didn't look that close at it; it just looked like a 2.5 Weaver at the time I
looked at it. I didn't look that close at it; it just looked like a 2.5 but
it turned out to be a Japanese scope, I believe.
...
Mr. BALL. I think that's all. Do you have any desire to read this over and
sign it or will you waive signature?
Mr. WEITZMAN. I will waive my signature. I don't think the government is
going to alter my statement any.
ejecting a live round from it
seymour weitzman tells of the carcano being found at 1:22 p.m. and captain
fritz ejecting a live round from it
viz:
from "When They Kill A President" by Roger Craig
<begin roger craig quote>
We were told by Dallas Police to look for a rifle--something I had already
concluded might be there since the cartridges found were, apparently, from a
rifle. I was nearing the northwest corner of the sixth floor when Deputy
Eugene Boone called out, "here it is." I was about eight feet from Boone,
who was standing next to a stack of cardboard boxes. The boxes were stacked
so that there was no opening between them except at the top. Looking over
the top and down the opening I saw a rifle with a telescopic sight laying on
the floor with the bolt facing upward. At this time Boone and I were joined
by Lt. Day of the Dallas Police Department and Dallas Homicide Captain, Will
Fritz. The rifle was retrieved by Lt. Day, who activated the bolt, ejecting
one live round of ammunition which fell to the floor.
Lt. Day inspected the rifle briefly, then handed it to Capt. Fritz who had a
puzzled look on his face. Seymour Weitzman, a deputy constable, was standing
beside me at the time. Weitzman was an expert on weapons. He had been in the
sporting goods business for many years and was familiar with all domestic
and foreign weapons. Capt. Fritz asked if anyone knew what kind of rifle it
was. Weitzman asked to see it. After a *close* examination (much longer than
Fritz or Day's examination) Weitzman declared that it was a 7.65 German
Mauser. Fritz agreed with him. Apparently, someone at the Dallas Police
Department also loses things but, at least, they are more conscientious.
They did replace it--even if the replacement was made in a different
country. (See Warren Report for Italian Mannlicher-Carcano 6.5 Caliber).
At that exact moment an unknown Dallas police officer came
running up the stairs and advised Capt. Fritz that a Dallas policeman had
been shot in the Oak Cliff area. I instinctively looked at my watch. The
time was 1:06 p.m. A token force of
uniformed officers was left to keep the sixth floor secure and Fritz, Day,
Boone, Mooney, Weitzman and I left the building.
<end roger craig quote>
from the unsigned testimony of weitzman, produced by the warren commission:
Mr. BALL. In the statement that you made to the Dallas Police Department
that afternoon, you referred to the rifle as a 7.65 Mauser boltt action?
...
Mr. BALL. You also said at the time the rifle was found at 1:22 p.m., is
that correct?
Mr. WEITZMAN. I believe that is correct I Wouldn't commit myself there
because I am not sure; I'm not positive that was it.
Mr. BALL. In this statement, it says Captain Fritz took charge of the rifle
and ejected one live round from the chamber.
Mr. WEITZMAN. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. He did eject one live round?
Mr. WEITZMAN. Yes, sir; he did eject one live round, one live round, yes
sir...
...
Mr. BALL. And it was equipped with a scope?
Mr. WEITZMAN. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Was it of Japanese manufacture?
Mr. WEITZMAN. I believe it was a 2.5 Weaver at the time I looked at it. I
didn't look that close at it; it just looked like a 2.5 Weaver at the time I
looked at it. I didn't look that close at it; it just looked like a 2.5 but
it turned out to be a Japanese scope, I believe.
...
Mr. BALL. I think that's all. Do you have any desire to read this over and
sign it or will you waive signature?
Mr. WEITZMAN. I will waive my signature. I don't think the government is
going to alter my statement any.