two frame rifles, two sets of 3 frame shells, two magic bullets

[Sam McClung]

This is a timeline I constructed regarding the finding of the two frame rifles in 411 Elm on 11-22-63:

12:50 p.m. to 1:06 p.m. Finding Of The Mauser

1:06 p.m. Most Of The Finders Of The Mauser Leave 411 Elm upon hearing the news over the cop radio of Tippit's death

1:22 p.m. The Carcano Was Found Per Unsigned Testimony Produced By The Warren Commission For Deputy Weitzman

1:25 p.m. Finding Of The Mauser On The Roof

1:30 p.m.+ Finding Of The Carcano On 5th Floor By Ellsworth et al.
1:30 p.m.+ Frame 6.5 Carcano "Magic Bullet" (rounded tip) swapped into evidence for 7.65 Mauser "Magic Bullet" (pointed
tip)

1:55 p.m. Filming Of The Carcano

+/-2:00 p.m. Lt. Day Leaves 411 Elm With The Carcano

+/-2:30 p.m. Tom Alyea's Film Left 411 Elm
(there may have been film made by others, like for the 1:55 p.m. filming of the Carcano, which also left 411 Elm
at +/-2:30 p.m., then all the film synthesized into "The Alyea Film")

+/-2:45 p.m. Lt. Day Was Back On The 6th Floor, Perhaps In Regard To Assassination Evidence

+/-2:30 p.m. to 3:15 p.m.+ A WFAA News Director Has Some Of Tom Alyea's Film Frames Burned
(presumably the frames showing the 7.65 Mauser and showing Captain Fritz picking up the 3 bullet shells,
and maybe even showing Lt. Day ejecting a live round from the Mauser as witnessed by Roger Craig);
also Captain Fritz got a copy of Tom Alyea's films at some point

"Sometime after 3.15 pm the first Alyea film was telecast." On TV


At Some Point Captain Fritz's Copies Of Tom Alyea's Films Are Lost
(presumably because they had the frames of the 7.65 Mauser and the frames showing Captain Fritz picking up the 3 bullet
shells,
and maybe even showing Lt. Day ejecting a live round from the Mauser as witnessed by Roger Craig )


for more details see:
http://web.newsguy.com/mcclung/2%20tsbd%20rifles.html

[donald willis]

Post by Sam McClung
12:50 p.m. to 1:06 p.m. Finding Of The Mauser
1:06 p.m. Most Of The Finders Of The Mauser Leave 411 Elm upon hearing the news over the cop radio of Tippit's death
1:22 p.m. The Carcano Was Found Per Unsigned Testimony Produced By The Warren Commission For Deputy Weitzman
1:25 p.m. Finding Of The Mauser On The Roof
1:30 p.m.+ Finding Of The Carcano On 5th Floor By Ellsworth et al.
1:30 p.m.+ Frame 6.5 Carcano "Magic Bullet" (rounded tip) swapped into evidence for 7.65 Mauser "Magic Bullet" (pointed
tip)
1:55 p.m. Filming Of The Carcano
+/-2:00 p.m. Lt. Day Leaves 411 Elm With The Carcano
+/-2:30 p.m. Tom Alyea's Film Left 411 Elm
(there may have been film made by others, like for the 1:55 p.m. filming of the Carcano, which also left 411 Elm
at +/-2:30 p.m., then all the film synthesized into "The Alyea Film")
+/-2:45 p.m. Lt. Day Was Back On The 6th Floor, Perhaps In Regard To Assassination Evidence
+/-2:30 p.m. to 3:15 p.m.+ A WFAA News Director Has Some Of Tom Alyea's Film Frames Burned
(presumably the frames showing the 7.65 Mauser and showing Captain Fritz picking up the 3 bullet shells,

Remember Connie Kritzberg wrote that the Feds were supervising the news at the news agencies. And Fritz might have been shown picking up hulls in a place other than the 6th-floor "nest"....
dcw

Post by Sam McClung
and maybe even showing Lt. Day ejecting a live round from the Mauser as witnessed by Roger Craig);
also Captain Fritz got a copy of Tom Alyea's films at some point
"Sometime after 3.15 pm the first Alyea film was telecast." On TV
At Some Point Captain Fritz's Copies Of Tom Alyea's Films Are Lost
(presumably because they had the frames of the 7.65 Mauser and the frames showing Captain Fritz picking up the 3 bullet
shells,
and maybe even showing Lt. Day ejecting a live round from the Mauser as witnessed by Roger Craig )
http://web.newsguy.com/mcclung/2%20tsbd%20rifles.html

[Sam McClung]

Post by donald willis

Post by Sam McClung
12:50 p.m. to 1:06 p.m. Finding Of The Mauser
1:06 p.m. Most Of The Finders Of The Mauser Leave 411 Elm upon hearing the news over the cop radio of Tippit's death
1:22 p.m. The Carcano Was Found Per Unsigned Testimony Produced By The Warren Commission For Deputy Weitzman
1:25 p.m. Finding Of The Mauser On The Roof
1:30 p.m.+ Finding Of The Carcano On 5th Floor By Ellsworth et al.
1:30 p.m.+ Frame 6.5 Carcano "Magic Bullet" (rounded tip) swapped into evidence for 7.65 Mauser "Magic Bullet"
(pointed
tip)
1:55 p.m. Filming Of The Carcano
+/-2:00 p.m. Lt. Day Leaves 411 Elm With The Carcano
+/-2:30 p.m. Tom Alyea's Film Left 411 Elm
(there may have been film made by others, like for the 1:55 p.m. filming of the Carcano, which also left 411
Elm
at +/-2:30 p.m., then all the film synthesized into "The Alyea Film")
+/-2:45 p.m. Lt. Day Was Back On The 6th Floor, Perhaps In Regard To Assassination Evidence
+/-2:30 p.m. to 3:15 p.m.+ A WFAA News Director Has Some Of Tom Alyea's Film Frames Burned
(presumably the frames showing the 7.65 Mauser and showing Captain Fritz picking up the 3 bullet shells,

Remember Connie Kritzberg wrote that the Feds were supervising the news at the news agencies. And Fritz might have
been shown picking up hulls in a place other than the 6th-floor "nest"....
dcw

per penn jones half the dallas law enforcement was kkk

between fritz and day, statistically one of them was kkk

maybe fritz had a magic pocket where he found hulls

Post by donald willis

Post by Sam McClung
and maybe even showing Lt. Day ejecting a live round from the Mauser as witnessed by Roger Craig);
also Captain Fritz got a copy of Tom Alyea's films at some point
"Sometime after 3.15 pm the first Alyea film was telecast." On TV
At Some Point Captain Fritz's Copies Of Tom Alyea's Films Are Lost
(presumably because they had the frames of the 7.65 Mauser and the frames showing Captain Fritz picking up the 3
bullet
shells,
and maybe even showing Lt. Day ejecting a live round from the Mauser as witnessed by Roger Craig )
http://web.newsguy.com/mcclung/2%20tsbd%20rifles.html

[Sam McClung]

Post by Sam McClung
12:50 p.m. to 1:06 p.m. Finding Of The Mauser
1:06 p.m. Most Of The Finders Of The Mauser Leave 411 Elm upon hearing the news over the cop radio of Tippit's death
1:22 p.m. The Carcano Was Found Per Unsigned Testimony Produced By The Warren Commission For Deputy Weitzman
1:25 p.m. Finding Of The Mauser On The Roof
1:30 p.m.+ Finding Of The Carcano On 5th Floor By Ellsworth et al.
1:30 p.m.+ Frame 6.5 Carcano "Magic Bullet" (rounded tip) swapped into evidence for 7.65 Mauser "Magic Bullet" (pointed
tip)
1:55 p.m. Filming Of The Carcano
+/-2:00 p.m. Lt. Day Leaves 411 Elm With The Carcano
+/-2:30 p.m. Tom Alyea's Film Left 411 Elm
(there may have been film made by others, like for the 1:55 p.m. filming of the Carcano, which also left 411 Elm
at +/-2:30 p.m., then all the film synthesized into "The Alyea Film")
+/-2:45 p.m. Lt. Day Was Back On The 6th Floor, Perhaps In Regard To Assassination Evidence
+/-2:30 p.m. to 3:15 p.m.+ A WFAA News Director Has Some Of Tom Alyea's Film Frames Burned
(presumably the frames showing the 7.65 Mauser and showing Captain Fritz picking up the 3 bullet shells,
and maybe even showing Lt. Day ejecting a live round from the Mauser as witnessed by Roger Craig);
also Captain Fritz got a copy of Tom Alyea's films at some point
"Sometime after 3.15 pm the first Alyea film was telecast." On TV
At Some Point Captain Fritz's Copies Of Tom Alyea's Films Are Lost
(presumably because they had the frames of the 7.65 Mauser and the frames showing Captain Fritz picking up the 3 bullet
shells,
and maybe even showing Lt. Day ejecting a live round from the Mauser as witnessed by Roger Craig )
http://web.newsguy.com/mcclung/2%20tsbd%20rifles.html

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