Discussion:
Absolute Credibility List
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Sam McClung
2008-09-30 22:42:32 UTC
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Lee Harvey Oswald

Richard Case Nagell

Tosh Plumlee

Roger Craig

Gordon Arnold

Jean Hill

Julia Mercer

Sam Giancana and Chuck Giancana in Double Cross

E. H. Hunt on his "deathbed"

Jack Ruby while incarcerated post-assassination


"What song is it you wanna hear?"
Ronnie Van Zant
Sam McClung
2008-10-02 03:28:42 UTC
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add: Chauncey Holt
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Lee Harvey Oswald
Richard Case Nagell
Tosh Plumlee
Roger Craig
Gordon Arnold
Jean Hill
Julia Mercer
Sam Giancana and Chuck Giancana in Double Cross
E. H. Hunt on his "deathbed"
Jack Ruby while incarcerated post-assassination
"What song is it you wanna hear?"
Ronnie Van Zant
t***@gmail.com
2008-10-02 21:02:07 UTC
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Hi Sam,

Are you aware that Chauncey Holt claims, in a photo posted on the
Murder Solved website, that one of the people watching LHO's FPCC
leafletting of New Orleans International Trade Mart in August 1963 is
a guy named Bud Belcher, a pilot from Cuba?

The guy was actually named by the FBI as John Alice, who ran a
business out of International Trade Mart in August 1963. No mention of
any Bud Belcher, a <snicker> *pilot from Cuba*, LOL!

Given that Holt would lie about that, why should he be believed on
anything else and why would you include him on an *absolute
credibility* list?

The guy was a total scam artist.

Regards,

Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
Post by Sam McClung
add: Chauncey Holt
Post by Sam McClung
Lee Harvey Oswald
Richard Case Nagell
Tosh Plumlee
Roger Craig
Gordon Arnold
Jean Hill
Julia Mercer
Sam Giancana and Chuck Giancana in Double Cross
E. H. Hunt on his "deathbed"
Jack Ruby while incarcerated post-assassination
"What song is it you wanna hear?"
Ronnie Van Zant
aeffects
2008-10-02 21:25:33 UTC
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Hi Sam,
Are you aware that Chauncey Holt claims, in a photo posted on the
Murder Solved website, that one of the people watching LHO's FPCC
leafletting of New Orleans International Trade Mart in August 1963 is
a guy named Bud Belcher, a pilot from Cuba?
The guy was actually named by the FBI as John Alice, who ran a
business out of International Trade Mart in August 1963. No mention of
any Bud Belcher, a <snicker> *pilot from Cuba*, LOL!
Given that Holt would lie about that, why should he be believed on
anything else and why would you include him on an *absolute
credibility* list?
The guy was a total scam artist.
much more (sic) than a few think of you, Timothy Brennan! Keep coming
back!
Post by t***@gmail.com
Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
Post by Sam McClung
add: Chauncey Holt
Post by Sam McClung
Lee Harvey Oswald
Richard Case Nagell
Tosh Plumlee
Roger Craig
Gordon Arnold
Jean Hill
Julia Mercer
Sam Giancana and Chuck Giancana in Double Cross
E. H. Hunt on his "deathbed"
Jack Ruby while incarcerated post-assassination
"What song is it you wanna hear?"
Ronnie Van Zant
t***@gmail.com
2008-10-03 21:28:18 UTC
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Hi Toots,

Say, ol' Toots-E-Roll fella, er, I mean David *aeffects* Healy,
published author on <snicker> Zapruder Film Alteration, I couldn't
help but notice that neither you nor Sam McClung could be bothered
responding to the substance of what I wrote.

And you a published author, yet, ol' Toots-E-Roll fella! So you think
it's OK for Chauncey Holt to make up nonsense like *a pilot from Cuba,
Bud Belcher, was outside International Trade Mart the day Oswald
picketed it*, when, in fact, there is no such person as Bud Belcher?

What it proves, Mr Healy, is that Chauncey Holt had no business making
any comments about who was or wasn't outside International Trade Mart
that day because, Mr Healy, Chauncey Holt didn't know anything about
it.

Chauncey Holt should not be making anybody's Absolute Credibility
List. He should only be making an Absolute Zero Credibility List,
along with those that propose Z film alteration theories such as *A
Lady In Yellow Pants In the Nix Film Indicates Zapruder Film
Alteration*.

Regards,

Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
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Post by t***@gmail.com
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Hi Sam,
Are you aware that Chauncey Holt claims, in a photo posted on the
Murder Solved website, that one of the people watching LHO's FPCC
leafletting of New Orleans International Trade Mart in August 1963 is
a guy named Bud Belcher, a pilot from Cuba?
The guy was actually named by the FBI as John Alice, who ran a
business out of International Trade Mart in August 1963. No mention of
any Bud Belcher, a <snicker> *pilot from Cuba*, LOL!
Given that Holt would lie about that, why should he be believed on
anything else and why would you include him on an *absolute
credibility* list?
The guy was a total scam artist.
much more (sic) than a few think of you, Timothy Brennan! Keep coming
back!
Post by t***@gmail.com
Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
Post by Sam McClung
add: Chauncey Holt
Post by Sam McClung
Lee Harvey Oswald
Richard Case Nagell
Tosh Plumlee
Roger Craig
Gordon Arnold
Jean Hill
Julia Mercer
Sam Giancana and Chuck Giancana in Double Cross
E. H. Hunt on his "deathbed"
Jack Ruby while incarcerated post-assassination
"What song is it you wanna hear?"
Ronnie Van Zant
aeffects
2008-10-04 08:23:00 UTC
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Hi Toots,
Say, ol' Toots-E-Roll fella, er, I mean David *aeffects* Healy,
published author on <snicker> Zapruder Film Alteration, I couldn't
help but notice that neither you nor Sam McClung could be bothered
responding to the substance of what I wrote.
hon, you're not worth the time -- trolls to the rear of the bus,
comment of the day! :)
Post by t***@gmail.com
And you a published author, yet, ol' Toots-E-Roll fella! So you think
it's OK for Chauncey Holt to make up nonsense like *a pilot from Cuba,
Bud Belcher, was outside International Trade Mart the day Oswald
picketed it*, when, in fact, there is no such person as Bud Belcher?
I love it when ferigners (sic) weasel there way into a full fledged
American conspiracy .... must make them feel so, er, cosmopolitan?
Post by t***@gmail.com
What it proves, Mr Healy, is that Chauncey Holt had no business making
any comments about who was or wasn't outside International Trade Mart
that day because, Mr Healy, Chauncey Holt didn't know anything about
it.
hon, when you dance, lift your skirt a little higher -- give the folks
a thrill... ya know, if your gonna take up bandwidth make it worth our
while, eh?
Post by t***@gmail.com
Chauncey Holt should not be making anybody's Absolute Credibility
List. He should only be making an Absolute Zero Credibility List,
along with those that propose Z film alteration theories such as *A
Lady In Yellow Pants In the Nix Film Indicates Zapruder Film
Alteration*.
credibility? Tim Brennan credibility = 0 so why make an effort?

btw, thanks for plugging the book...
Post by t***@gmail.com
Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
Post by aeffects
Post by t***@gmail.com
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Hi Sam,
Are you aware that Chauncey Holt claims, in a photo posted on the
Murder Solved website, that one of the people watching LHO's FPCC
leafletting of New Orleans International Trade Mart in August 1963 is
a guy named Bud Belcher, a pilot from Cuba?
The guy was actually named by the FBI as John Alice, who ran a
business out of International Trade Mart in August 1963. No mention of
any Bud Belcher, a <snicker> *pilot from Cuba*, LOL!
Given that Holt would lie about that, why should he be believed on
anything else and why would you include him on an *absolute
credibility* list?
The guy was a total scam artist.
much more (sic) than a few think of you, Timothy Brennan! Keep coming
back!
Post by t***@gmail.com
Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
Post by Sam McClung
add: Chauncey Holt
Post by Sam McClung
Lee Harvey Oswald
Richard Case Nagell
Tosh Plumlee
Roger Craig
Gordon Arnold
Jean Hill
Julia Mercer
Sam Giancana and Chuck Giancana in Double Cross
E. H. Hunt on his "deathbed"
Jack Ruby while incarcerated post-assassination
"What song is it you wanna hear?"
Ronnie Van Zant
t***@gmail.com
2008-10-08 01:33:29 UTC
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Hi Toots,

Say, coming from you, this nonsense is a compliment, LOL!

Say, Toots, no people in the States interested in things like the Jack
The Ripper Mystery? Wasn't there some movie about the Australia
mystery the Azaria Chamberlain Case that starred the American actress
Meryl Streep?

You know, David *aeffects* Healy, people from anywhere across the
globe are entitled to study any subject they want to, Toots. The
internet has made that even easier, Toots. Strange attitude you have
to research there, Mr Healy.

Still, I like the way you and Gil Jesus squeal and try to attack a
researcher's abilities, simply on the basis of where they live. It
shows why you're so hopelessly off the mark about the Kennedy
Assassination, Toots, when you display logic like that.

Regards,

Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
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Post by t***@gmail.com
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Hi Toots,
Say, ol' Toots-E-Roll fella, er, I mean David *aeffects* Healy,
published author on <snicker> Zapruder Film Alteration, I couldn't
help but notice that neither you nor Sam McClung could be bothered
responding to the substance of what I wrote.
hon, you're not worth the time -- trolls to the rear of the bus,
comment of the day! :)
Post by t***@gmail.com
And you a published author, yet, ol' Toots-E-Roll fella! So you think
it's OK for Chauncey Holt to make up nonsense like *a pilot from Cuba,
BudBelcher, was outside International Trade Mart the day Oswald
picketed it*, when, in fact, there is no such person as BudBelcher?
I love it when ferigners (sic) weasel there way into a full fledged
American conspiracy .... must make them feel so, er, cosmopolitan?
Post by t***@gmail.com
What it proves, Mr Healy, is that Chauncey Holt had no business making
any comments about who was or wasn't outside International Trade Mart
that day because, Mr Healy, Chauncey Holt didn't know anything about
it.
hon, when you dance, lift your skirt a little higher -- give the folks
a thrill... ya know, if your gonna take up bandwidth make it worth our
while, eh?
Post by t***@gmail.com
Chauncey Holt should not be making anybody's Absolute Credibility
List. He should only be making an Absolute Zero Credibility List,
along with those that propose Z film alteration theories such as *A
Lady In Yellow Pants In the Nix Film Indicates Zapruder Film
Alteration*.
credibility? Tim Brennan credibility = 0 so why make an effort?
btw, thanks for plugging the book...
Post by t***@gmail.com
Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
Post by aeffects
Post by t***@gmail.com
TOP POST
Hi Sam,
Are you aware that Chauncey Holt claims, in a photo posted on the
Murder Solved website, that one of the people watching LHO's FPCC
leafletting of New Orleans International Trade Mart in August 1963 is
a guy named BudBelcher, a pilot from Cuba?
The guy was actually named by the FBI as John Alice, who ran a
business out of International Trade Mart in August 1963. No mention of
any BudBelcher, a <snicker> *pilot from Cuba*, LOL!
Given that Holt would lie about that, why should he be believed on
anything else and why would you include him on an *absolute
credibility* list?
The guy was a total scam artist.
much more (sic) than a few think of you, Timothy Brennan! Keep coming
back!
Post by t***@gmail.com
Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
Post by Sam McClung
add: Chauncey Holt
Post by Sam McClung
Lee Harvey Oswald
Richard Case Nagell
Tosh Plumlee
Roger Craig
Gordon Arnold
Jean Hill
Julia Mercer
Sam Giancana and Chuck Giancana in Double Cross
E. H. Hunt on his "deathbed"
Jack Ruby while incarcerated post-assassination
"What song is it you wanna hear?"
Ronnie Van Zant
Walt
2008-10-04 13:57:02 UTC
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Post by Sam McClung
Lee Harvey Oswald
Richard Case Nagell
Tosh Plumlee
Roger Craig
Gordon Arnold
Jean Hill
Julia Mercer
Sam Giancana and Chuck Giancana in Double Cross
E. H. Hunt on his "deathbed"
Jack Ruby while incarcerated post-assassination
"What song is it you wanna hear?"
Ronnie Van Zant
Yer not serious......Yer instigatin ......
Sam McClung
2008-10-04 14:16:46 UTC
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Post by Walt
Post by Sam McClung
Lee Harvey Oswald
Richard Case Nagell
Tosh Plumlee
Roger Craig
Gordon Arnold
Jean Hill
Julia Mercer
Sam Giancana and Chuck Giancana in Double Cross
E. H. Hunt on his "deathbed"
Jack Ruby while incarcerated post-assassination
"What song is it you wanna hear?"
Ronnie Van Zant
Yer not serious......Yer instigatin ......
dead serious
t***@gmail.com
2008-10-06 05:50:05 UTC
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Hi Sam,

How do you explain, if you find Chauncey Holt so credible, why he
would make up a lie about *Bud Belcher*, a *pilot from Cuba*, being
outside International Trade Mart the day of Oswald's FPCC leafletting?

There is no such person as *Bud Belcher, a pilot from Cuba*, Sam. the
person he named as Belcher was actually John Alice, who worked at the
Trade Mart.

Holt is just another person who has told lies about who is and who
isn't in the WDSU TV film taken that day, Sam. He has no more
credibility than Judyth Vary Baker or Thomas Edward Beckham, in that
respect.

Regards,

Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
Post by Sam McClung
Post by Walt
Post by Sam McClung
Lee Harvey Oswald
Richard Case Nagell
Tosh Plumlee
Roger Craig
Gordon Arnold
Jean Hill
Julia Mercer
Sam Giancana and Chuck Giancana in Double Cross
E. H. Hunt on his "deathbed"
Jack Ruby while incarcerated post-assassination
"What song is it you wanna hear?"
Ronnie Van Zant
Yer not serious......Yer instigatin ......
dead serious
Walt
2008-10-06 15:49:19 UTC
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Post by Walt
Post by Sam McClung
Lee Harvey Oswald
Richard Case Nagell
Tosh Plumlee
Roger Craig
Gordon Arnold
Jean Hill
Julia Mercer
Sam Giancana and Chuck Giancana in Double Cross
E. H. Hunt on his "deathbed"
Jack Ruby while incarcerated post-assassination
"What song is it you wanna hear?"
Ronnie Van Zant
Yer not serious......Yer instigatin ......
dead serious-
IMO.......Julia Mercer is the only person on that list with
unassailable credibility.





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Sam McClung
2022-09-16 00:49:31 UTC
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Lee Harvey Oswald
Richard Case Nagell
Tosh Plumlee
Roger Craig
Gordon Arnold
Jean Hill
Julia Mercer
Sam Giancana and Chuck Giancana in Double Cross
E. H. Hunt on his "deathbed"
Jack Ruby while incarcerated post-assassination
"What song is it you wanna hear?"
Ronnie Van Zant
Add:

Ricky White
He gave the world a lot on the mechanics (Giancana gave the rest) though I believe Roscoe changed some of the facts as told in his diary to cover for some of his fellow foot soldiers. Seems Roscoe may have told his pastor he (Roscoe) had been tricked into thinking he was working for the CIA. Seems somewhere is evidence Roscoe may have been ONI. The cables Roscoe received show "ONI." The publishing industry can rest easy for now, Ricky's info has been trampled on by the greedy.

Evelyn King

Malcolm Summers

Lee Bowers

All on this list pertains to info other than the WC fairy tale edited and altered typewritten documents.
Sam McClung
2022-09-16 01:27:01 UTC
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Post by Sam McClung
Lee Harvey Oswald
Richard Case Nagell
Tosh Plumlee
Roger Craig
Gordon Arnold
Jean Hill
Julia Mercer
Sam Giancana and Chuck Giancana in Double Cross
E. H. Hunt on his "deathbed"
Jack Ruby while incarcerated post-assassination
"What song is it you wanna hear?"
Ronnie Van Zant
Ricky White
He gave the world a lot on the mechanics (Giancana gave the rest) though I believe Roscoe changed some of the facts as told in his diary to cover for some of his fellow foot soldiers. Seems Roscoe may have told his pastor he (Roscoe) had been tricked into thinking he was working for the CIA. Seems somewhere is evidence Roscoe may have been ONI. The cables Roscoe received show "ONI." The publishing industry can rest easy for now, Ricky's info has been trampled on by the greedy.
Evelyn King
Malcolm Summers
Lee Bowers
All on this list pertains to info other than the WC fairy tale edited and altered typewritten documents.
Another add is Roderick MacKenzie.
Sam McClung
2023-11-16 14:17:12 UTC
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Post by Sam McClung
Post by Sam McClung
Post by Sam McClung
Lee Harvey Oswald
Richard Case Nagell
Tosh Plumlee
Roger Craig
Gordon Arnold
Jean Hill
Julia Mercer
Sam Giancana and Chuck Giancana in Double Cross
E. H. Hunt on his "deathbed"
Jack Ruby while incarcerated post-assassination
"What song is it you wanna hear?"
Ronnie Van Zant
Ricky White
He gave the world a lot on the mechanics (Giancana gave the rest) though I believe Roscoe changed some of the facts as told in his diary to cover for some of his fellow foot soldiers. Seems Roscoe may have told his pastor he (Roscoe) had been tricked into thinking he was working for the CIA. Seems somewhere is evidence Roscoe may have been ONI. The cables Roscoe received show "ONI." The publishing industry can rest easy for now, Ricky's info has been trampled on by the greedy.
Evelyn King
Malcolm Summers
Lee Bowers
All on this list pertains to info other than the WC fairy tale edited and altered typewritten documents.
Another add is Roderick MacKenzie.
Add Norman Similas
Sam McClung
2023-11-25 05:05:51 UTC
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Lee Harvey Oswald
Richard Case Nagell
Tosh Plumlee
Tosh mentions the Praetorian Guard @1:44:20+ and at 1:45:17+ mentions the "Kennedy assassination...clan"

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Roger Craig
Gordon Arnold
Jean Hill
Julia Mercer
Sam Giancana and Chuck Giancana in Double Cross
E. H. Hunt on his "deathbed"
Jack Ruby while incarcerated post-assassination
"What song is it you wanna hear?"
Ronnie Van Zant
Hank Sienzant
2023-11-25 05:54:43 UTC
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Post by Sam McClung
Lee Harvey Oswald
Richard Case Nagell
Tosh Plumlee
Roger Craig
Gordon Arnold
Jean Hill
Julia Mercer
Sam Giancana and Chuck Giancana in Double Cross
E. H. Hunt on his "deathbed"
Jack Ruby while incarcerated post-assassination
Do you mean that?

Because Ruby said:
— quote —
Mr. RUBY. The clock stopped and said 11:21. I was watching on that thing; yes. Then it must have been 11:17, closer to 18. That is the timing when I left the Western Union to the time of the bottom of the ramp.
You wouldn't have time enough to have any conspiracy, to be self-saving, to mingle with the crowd, as it was told about me.
I realize it is a terrible thing I have done, and it was a stupid thing, but I just was carried away emotionally. Do you follow that?
Chief Justice WARREN. Yes; I do indeed, every word.
Mr. RUBY. I had the gun in my right hip pocket, and impulsively, if that is the correct word here, I saw him, and that is all I can say. And I didn't care what happened to me.

Mr. RUBY. No; I am as innocent regarding any conspiracy as any of you gentlemen in the room, and I don't want anything to be run over lightly. I want you to dig into it with any biting, any question that might embarrass me, or anything that might bring up my background, which isn't so terribly spotted--I have never been a criminal--I have never been in jail---

Mr. RUBY. But by delaying minutes, you lose the chance. And all I want to do is tell the truth, and that is all. There was no conspiracy.
— unquote —

“There was no conspiracy“ — Jack Ruby
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"What song is it you wanna hear?"
Ronnie Van Zant
Ben Holmes
2023-11-28 00:42:42 UTC
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On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:54:43 -0800 (PST), Hank Sienzant
<***@aol.com> wrote:

You've claimed that the "A.B.C.D." in the Autopsy Report is the
description of the *location* of the large head wound.

Yet you refuse time and time again from QUOTING the preceding
paragraph that describes what this ACTUALLY is. Why is that?

You've also claimed that the prosectors dissected the throat wound.

Why do you continue to refuse to cite any evidence for this?

Why have you CONSISTENTLY run away each time I raise this issue?

Now you've quite stupidly insisted that the bullet entered JFK's back,
and exited the back of his head.

More cowardice, more stupidity, more dishonesty.

Are you proud of yourself?

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